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famous phil Jedi Guardian


Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 807 Location: Darlington
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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Hi , this happens on lots of diesels 4K rpm power drops because the governors start to work knocking the fuelling down gradually, be it a mechanical pump or ECU control ,,, there are some older race tuned Mercedes diesels that make the best HP figures at 6.5k rpm a lot of this is down to the old school cam & piston type fuel pump , the rotary pumps don't seem to like revving much over 3k rpm -not that you'd want to rev the engine above 6k ,,
13 W D , what gearbox do you have in your 13 window ? _________________ Auto Union Munga Jeep ,T4 2.4td , T4 2.5tdi ,Mercedes S Class on LPG , 66 splity deluxe , GP mk1, 3 type 25s 1 with 1.9dt pug engine + 1 with N/A pug engine ,,there are 6 t25s with pug power in Darlington |
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13 window deluxe Jedi Guardian


Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 599 Location: chesterfield derbyshire
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| famous phil wrote: |
13 W D , what gearbox do you have in your 13 window ? |
dont ask its a long story but it was a professional built type1 box with 3.44 ring and pinion and 0.82 4th for the last 2 years but i've converted van to take the bigger 091 box and i've built a 091 box for this season this has 4.57 diff and 0.70 4th gear with a 22mm input shaft to take the 02a golf tdi clutch plate and 002 bellhousing hopefully this should do the trick  _________________ 1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1.9tdi now with power steering,
1990 T25 1.9tdi(now sold),
1991 golf 2 gti with tuned ahu tdi,
1993 suzuki samurai with vw 1.9tdi (now sold),
1979 twin slidder bay 1.9tdi (now sold)
1998 t4 caravelle 2.5 tdi |
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famous phil Jedi Guardian


Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 807 Location: Darlington
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:50 am Post subject: |
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thats a bloody high ratio I've got a GT box ( will have to check up on the ratio ) to go in mine even that will not be high enough for a TDi , might just have to fit a N/A engine ,Di? ,, _________________ Auto Union Munga Jeep ,T4 2.4td , T4 2.5tdi ,Mercedes S Class on LPG , 66 splity deluxe , GP mk1, 3 type 25s 1 with 1.9dt pug engine + 1 with N/A pug engine ,,there are 6 t25s with pug power in Darlington |
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13 window deluxe Jedi Guardian


Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 599 Location: chesterfield derbyshire
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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the gt beetle has 2 ratios but the option high ratio box (at?) is 3.75 diff i belive. i wouldnt put a tdi in with a type1 box your asking for trouble they can't handle the torque to be honest my aaz was plenty quick enough in a split if people put them in a t25 thats 500kg heavier as a upgrade its more than enough for a split! plus the aaz and 1.9d 1y engines are revier than a tdi so would be better suited to a gt box _________________ 1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1.9tdi now with power steering,
1990 T25 1.9tdi(now sold),
1991 golf 2 gti with tuned ahu tdi,
1993 suzuki samurai with vw 1.9tdi (now sold),
1979 twin slidder bay 1.9tdi (now sold)
1998 t4 caravelle 2.5 tdi |
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jp Darth Admin


Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 1527 Location: Chippenham, Wiltshire
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| 13 window deluxe wrote: | | famous phil wrote: |
13 W D , what gearbox do you have in your 13 window ? |
dont ask |
I'm asking did you get a satisfactory outcome to this in the end from the supplier ? You were telling me about it at V'fest and things weren't sounding too good then. |
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13 window deluxe Jedi Guardian


Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 599 Location: chesterfield derbyshire
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| jp wrote: | | 13 window deluxe wrote: | | famous phil wrote: |
13 W D , what gearbox do you have in your 13 window ? |
dont ask |
I'm asking did you get a satisfactory outcome to this in the end from the supplier ? You were telling me about it at V'fest and things weren't sounding too good then. |
not really dude i ended doing what i was going to do when i first started the project, fitting a 091 and rebuilding it myself i was told the type 1 irs box was plenty strong enough and i was always dubious of that but you live and learn _________________ 1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1.9tdi now with power steering,
1990 T25 1.9tdi(now sold),
1991 golf 2 gti with tuned ahu tdi,
1993 suzuki samurai with vw 1.9tdi (now sold),
1979 twin slidder bay 1.9tdi (now sold)
1998 t4 caravelle 2.5 tdi |
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famous phil Jedi Guardian


Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 807 Location: Darlington
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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this seems a popular thread at the moment going by the views , right as I was saying earlier about a golf TDi running 250bhp converted to 4x4 redlines at 5.5k RPM , the guy I know is an agent for REVO that are one of the most trusted when it comes to remapping and tunning VAG vehicles , the amount of work thats gone into making one of his latest demo cars work , infinite variable torque split for the 4x4 system that is controlled by the ABS , he said quite a headache to get round but once sorted is unbelievable ,,,
today I went to another breakers just to see what they had in , was a nice Audi 2.5TDI with 6speed box ,+ Audi 1.9TDi ,,I could choose an engine to me for £100 ( not the 2.5 ),,
http://www.revotechnik.com/
golf 4x4 rear drive
later Golf 4x4
 _________________ Auto Union Munga Jeep ,T4 2.4td , T4 2.5tdi ,Mercedes S Class on LPG , 66 splity deluxe , GP mk1, 3 type 25s 1 with 1.9dt pug engine + 1 with N/A pug engine ,,there are 6 t25s with pug power in Darlington |
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13 window deluxe Jedi Guardian


Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 599 Location: chesterfield derbyshire
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:29 am Post subject: |
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how much for the v6 tdi? always wanted one for a little project i had in mind _________________ 1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1.9tdi now with power steering,
1990 T25 1.9tdi(now sold),
1991 golf 2 gti with tuned ahu tdi,
1993 suzuki samurai with vw 1.9tdi (now sold),
1979 twin slidder bay 1.9tdi (now sold)
1998 t4 caravelle 2.5 tdi |
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famous phil Jedi Guardian


Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 807 Location: Darlington
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:45 am Post subject: |
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I'd realy like a V6 TDi for a project ( Think I best check one out before building my new engine ) this ones the 5 cylinder the guy that runs the yard builds 4x4 off/road specials and is going to use it in one by the sounds of it ,, _________________ Auto Union Munga Jeep ,T4 2.4td , T4 2.5tdi ,Mercedes S Class on LPG , 66 splity deluxe , GP mk1, 3 type 25s 1 with 1.9dt pug engine + 1 with N/A pug engine ,,there are 6 t25s with pug power in Darlington |
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13 window deluxe Jedi Guardian


Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 599 Location: chesterfield derbyshire
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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fair enough i've already got a 5 cylinder 2.5 tdi in t4 a v6 tdi in split would be awesome  _________________ 1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1.9tdi now with power steering,
1990 T25 1.9tdi(now sold),
1991 golf 2 gti with tuned ahu tdi,
1993 suzuki samurai with vw 1.9tdi (now sold),
1979 twin slidder bay 1.9tdi (now sold)
1998 t4 caravelle 2.5 tdi |
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jp Darth Admin


Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 1527 Location: Chippenham, Wiltshire
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| 13 window deluxe wrote: | fair enough i've already got a 5 cylinder 2.5 tdi in t4 a v6 tdi in split would be awesome  |
Shame you can't run um on chip fat thanks to the pile of pooh VP44 pump they have  _________________ Kevin and Perry Go Water Kooled by The Elusive Stranger
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1971 Devon Bay with 1800 Ford Turbo Diesel Engine (wip)
1972 Triumph Spitfire MkIV 1500
1999 Passat TDI Running On Chip Fat
2002 Golf GT TDI 150 |
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famous phil Jedi Guardian


Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 807 Location: Darlington
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| jp wrote: | | 13 window deluxe wrote: | fair enough i've already got a 5 cylinder 2.5 tdi in t4 a v6 tdi in split would be awesome  |
Shame you can't run um on chip fat thanks to the pile of pooh VP44 pump they have  |
looks like these pumps can overheat with the slightest loss of fuel , the link below explains a little about them and how to run them on WVO
http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=3524 _________________ Auto Union Munga Jeep ,T4 2.4td , T4 2.5tdi ,Mercedes S Class on LPG , 66 splity deluxe , GP mk1, 3 type 25s 1 with 1.9dt pug engine + 1 with N/A pug engine ,,there are 6 t25s with pug power in Darlington |
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