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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:29 pm    Post subject: keeping the subaru sound Reply with quote

hi
has anyone managed to keep the scooby burbble on their conversions,ive just fabricated yet another exhaust system using manifolds from RJES but still cant seem to keep the sound,
its a simple set up running from the o/s round the back of the engine between cradle and bellhousing to the n/s where it goes into a 2 piece collector where the pipe from the other manifold connects , from there it goes towards the rear of the van with a 90 degree bend to send it across the front of the timing cover into a backbox ,all this is done with 2 inch pipe the backbox is 450mm long 125 in diameter with a 2" entrance and a 3" exit , engine is a 1992 2.2 legacy lump non turbo
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was under the impression to get that real Subaru sound you need the turbo motor.

But in saying that b4tfink's 2.5 conversion sounds like an Aston Martin Eeeek
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep your primary headers to around 6" to keep the rumble.
Turbos make it sound much more.

With the Nat Asps it's bad exhaust design(*) that makes the burble. In an ideal world the primary headers should all be the same length

* Done for cheapness/space
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unequal length headers as on a WRX is what you need isn't it?.
Have a look at this
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=71&t=955281&nmt=Subaru%20exhaust%20headers?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:24 pm    Post subject: keeping the scooby sound Reply with quote

thanks for the info , better get back to the drawing board then, i will get that sound eventually
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any reason you're not using a stock (or pie sliced for clearance) header?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:36 pm    Post subject: scooby sound Reply with quote

hi elusive
what do you mean when you say pie sliced manifold as ive not heard of that, reason for not running a stock manifold is that it is a lot lower than the tsr sump ive fitted and i want all the pipework above the sump for obvious reasons now that the bus has been lowered again
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Near the bottom:
http://www.vwkd.co.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2555&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=12

Cut the angle to suit yours.
WRX headers have less "height" (compared to a Nat Asp) to them as stock. I have one but haven't played with it yet
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kai wrote:
I was under the impression to get that real Subaru sound you need the turbo motor.


Bah, all lies Laugh Out Loud

The look on peoples faces when they open my engine lid expecting to see a turbo engine and theres just an N/A Ej22 under there is priceless.

Even subi nuts can't pick mines not turbo, something in my exhaust when I wind the engine out whistles like a turbo spooling and my new timing belt at low revs makes a blower/straight cut whine.

Even the boss of the subi joint here with 30 years working on them thought it was a rexxydub the first time I pulled up.

Secret on getting that choppy turbo engine note is in the header design.


this is with my old muffler, new one isnt quite as loud
Video doesnt quite do it justice but you get the idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJOJvpuGry0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Z_1Crz0IA
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for all the interesting methods of getting the scooby burble but i have now managed to get it and it sounds purfect , thanks to all who replied
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is useless without pictures
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

heheh you want pics of the sooby wurble? how bout audio? Cool
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